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 Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: Chemicaltub@yahoo.com 
Date:   03-10-04 14:30

"It was a real problem to get the masses to watch Ferris Fremont deliver speeches, because he spoke in such a dull way."

"He was fquently photographed at the target range, guns were his hobby. He liked to wear a Stetson hat."

I would find more quotes if I had more time.

Read RADIO FREE ALBEMUTH and you'll see how striking the resemblence is between F.F.F and G.W.B.

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: 1Hannah1 
Date:   03-10-04 15:31

I agree. I believe Ferris Freemont has often been compared to Richard Nixon, but the conditions that the G'dubya Administration has imposed on us all feel a lot closer to the world of Radio Free.

I think it's interesting that in Radio Free, Freemont's psychosis emerges from his childhood/teenhood experiences, whereas G'dubya's comes from God telling him to instigate wars against Third World dystopias. (No kidding -- he's stated this as a matter of fact.)

PKD leads us to wonder if Freemont's psychosis is a complicated deep cover identity. I believe it's worth wondering just what was going on in G'dubya skull during recent events. G'dubya's deep cover in aid of whom?

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: Jon 
Date:   03-14-04 02:28



When I first read Radio Free Albemuth in 1998, I didn't like it becuse I thought the idea of a fascist president coming to power in the United States seemed ridiculous.

Well, haven't things changed. I couldn't help laughing at some of the things in RFA, which now seem extremely relevant and prescient!

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: --- 
Date:   04-06-04 14:20

F.F.F=666, idiotic, but just had to mention.

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: Shaun 
Date:   04-07-04 14:25

Well, I think that's a pretty obvious statement. Allthough Dubya does claim to speak with God. No is it the insane craftsman or Sophia? I don't think he could tell the difference.

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: Nimble 
Date:   04-14-04 15:53

The capacity to incarcerate without filing charges or disobey constitutional rights matches plot sequences.

The administration is currently discussing the creation of a domestic spy agency- Friends of the American People type of @!#$, for real... Looking for Aramchek terrorists. The similarities are uncanny.

Didn't Dick determine that Fremont was actually one of the foreign subversives that he sought so intensely in the States later in the book? So Bush would be who's puppet in this interpretation?

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: Stars Like Dust 
Date:   04-17-04 19:20

"Didn't Dick determine that Fremont was actually one of the foreign subversives that he sought so intensely in the States later in the book? So Bush would be who's puppet in this interpretation?"

Yes, Fremont, as it turned out, was a communist.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see who's side Bush is really on.

~Robert

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: nano_control 
Date:   04-17-04 22:52

Just my opinion

I believe it is really about deception, hypocrisy - not about whether the communists are the good guys or bad. Honestly, are milder forms of communism really that much worse than any fundamentalist persuasion? So it matters not that "communism" per se in some's opinions is the opposite of what the "home" country is "against" but that it is the opposite of what is commonly held as moral and just in the majority opinion in said "home" country.

Just my drunken opinion
I'll deny it in the morning
NOT!

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: BIPinmate 
Date:   04-18-04 22:17

Happy Happy police state.
Feeling safe?

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: Dan Finch 
Date:   04-26-04 16:57

This whole thread is really shallow and really stupid. Bush is a conservative (ie, Right-Libertarian), Nixon was a federalist, moderate leftist Republican. The fuss about Ashcroft and the Patriot Act is largely a political move, if you read the law seriously and carefully, you will see it streamlines already legal activities, such as acquiring subpoenas, etc. Anyway, regardless of your political stance, there are no similarities, and comparing them is an attempt to undermine your political adversaries unfairly. The Nixon comparison is the only plausible one, the guy was a slimeball. I wouldn't doubt him being a pinko ;)

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: infecticon011 
Date:   04-26-04 17:11

i don't really see Dubya as being anything approaching a libertarian....he's always shooting his mouth off about wanting a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, or for flag burning, or victims rights, and he's been spending federal money and creating federal programs like a drunken sailor. for a conservative, he hasn't been "conserving" anything.

and forgive me if i don't want the federal governments ability to side step my constitutional rights "streamlined".

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: Dan 
Date:   04-26-04 17:44

Indeed, compare George W. Bush with Barry Goldwater.

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: Aiwaz der Hughes 
Date:   04-27-04 10:20

FFF is meant to be Nixon, PKD said so and wrote so - according to documented interviews and books etc.

True, George W. and Nixon both say "new-key-lar" for "nuclear".....

I think it's about this -

the Kennedy that was going to run for Pres. was killed in ww2, which wasn't originally going to happen because there wouldn't have been a ww2, or 1

so, when JFK got in, he upset the plans in terms of that Nixon was set to have gotten in, but the other Kennedy was slated to be a Pres. and didn't get the chance

so it's like -

original timeline / universe was changed,

then it has since been in the process of getting rid of and replacing the 'demi-urge' one.


The missing older brother happened with Tesla as well - Wardenclyff wireless should have been the start of the electronics / industry standards, but it was closed in about 1904 (on Long Island).

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: Dan Finch 
Date:   04-27-04 11:58

Goldwater was a SAINT.

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 Deep Throat the porno film
Author: duff beer dragon 
Date:   04-30-04 13:15

Is that a real comment, or did you get it off of an episode of King of the Hill - the one where the other guys trash Boomhauers car and don't tell him they done it,

that's the exact words and emphasis Dale uses - what you wrote, minus the name.


Go to the X-rated theatre, there you will find your news story.

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: BIPinmate 
Date:   04-30-04 22:52

Dubya is not a libertarian.
Nixon was not a pinko. He bombed the crap out of pinkos.

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: radiofreesrini 
Date:   05-11-04 00:44


simply go through RFA and find-replace "Communist" with "Nazi".

* prescott bush did PR and fundraising for the Nazis to the tune of $50million over a ten year period. upon him were bestowed Nazi honors.

* george herbert walker was none other than prescott's boss during this fundraising period. quoting disinformation.com:

================quote==================

G.W.'s grandfather and great-grandfather, Prescott Bush and George Herbert Walker, were among the chief American fundraisers for Germany's Nazi Party. Through industrialist Fritz Thyssen, the Bush-run Union Banking Company and W. A. Harriman & Company, the Bushes sold over $50 million in German bonds to American investors, starting in 1924. Thyssen in turn pumped money into the infant Nazi Party, which had proved its desire to rule and its willingness to use brute force in 1923's Munich Beer Hall Putsch.

George Walker, GW's great-grandfather, also set up the takeover of the Hamburg-America Line, a cover for I.G. Farben's Nazi espionage unit in the United States. In Germany, I.G. Farben was most famous for putting the gas in gas chambers; it was the producer of Zyklon B and other gasses used on victims of the Holocaust. The Bush family was not unaware of the nature of their investment partners. They hired Allen Dulles, the future head of the CIA, to hide the funds they were making from Nazi investments and the funds they were sending to Nazi Germany, rather than divest. It was only in 1942, when the government seized Union Banking Company assets under the Trading With The Enemy Act, that George Walker and Prescott Bush stopped pumping money into Hitler's regime.

=============end quote===============

* Bush defeated Ann Richards the same way Fremont defeated his female gubernatorial rival in 1992

* FAPers are everywhere

* the enemy finessed upon itself = abu ghirab + 9-11 commission

* subliminal radio = the internet

* Bush being bumbling = Fremont

etc. etc. it's 2:43 am.

check out my site, it's my tribute to PKD:

http://www.RadioFreeSrini.com

and here is where you will find the Satellite:

http://www.Unamerican.com

ARAMCHEK FOREVER

-s

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: Dan Finch 
Date:   05-16-04 13:17

JFK (D) started vietnam, LBJ (D) covered it up, and Nixon (R) stopped it.

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: j 
Date:   05-21-04 06:01

if dubya is Freemont then Al-qaeda is Aramchek

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: BIPinmate 
Date:   05-21-04 18:11

As time goes by, it becomes apparent that our president is sicker than even the mind of pkd could imagine. Sadistic prison guards that take their cues from their leaders. Take their personalities from Frank Booth of Blue Velvet fame. It is sad. Sadder still that this is apparently how Americans like it.
Perhaps the talking door will keep us locked within our sick minds until we pay the fee: an ounce of humanity.

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: Warren Peace 
Date:   06-02-04 09:56

Comparing W to FFF doen't make sense. FFF was a fictional character, a paranoid megalomaniac bent on imposing his unfounded, delusional beliefs on a vulnerable world. W, on the other hand, is REAL. Spend less time comparing and more time convincing your friends that voting for W is like playing Russian Roulette with a full chamber.

Hmmm. Here's a proposition -- it's easier for the average American to prove that Earth is round than demonstrate that Al-qaeda really exists outside of W and company's mind.

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: Bob 
Date:   06-02-04 19:58

Few thoughts:

On the last message - fictional commentaries do make a difference, and one of the concerns of SF must be to represent reality because sometimes it is impossible to make people listen to facts. When these types of anti-terror anti-whatever laws come out, they are often compared w/ Big Brother. It makes a difference.

From the outside looking in - I'm writing from Australia, one of the 'Coalition of the Willing' - Bush is scaring the hell out of people. We don't care about your constitutional streamlining, except in that it may be used to et Bush re-elected, but we do care that Bush took a big, mighty dump on the UN and the Arab world and therefore set back any actual possibility of defeating international terrorism back fifty years.

The reason FFF is a Cummunist is because Communists and Right Wing Conservative Americans are really the same - the empire never ended. That's the point, its the continuation of the East and West Roman Empires.

That's what the guy who got stuck into this thread doesn't understand. The USSR was never 'pinko' communist. It was Stalinist Communist. Why do you think George Orwell wrote 1984 when he fought for the socialists in the Spanish civil war - because Stalinism is about as far from Marx and Engels as you can get - and what Bush is doing is closer.

The problem with Bush is that he thinks his opinion is the only one. He refuses to accept that anyone is allowed to have any view-points whatsoever. I don't want to be racist against the US, I know that most of you probably aren't like this, but from the outside it looks like the whole country is like that. Of course, that's probably just the loudest voices being heard, but the whole 'France disagreed with us therefore we're going to burn one of our longest lasting friendships.' I mean, Freedom Fries? WTF?

That's the simularity between FFF and Bush, they both believe that their will should be supreme law across the world without dissent. That's also why US foreign policy is going to stuff all of you guys up as well. Bush acts like a bully on the world stage - not just to his enemies but also his friends. Political cartoons over here draw our Prime Minister as Bush's pet.

Eventually, people gang up on those who act like bullies. Whether we should or should not have gone into Iraq is one thing. The fact is that Bush did it in a way that almost deliberately pissed off a lot of people, when it could have been done another way.

Once again - no offence meant to Americans, only to George Bush.

Cheers.

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: Warren Peace 
Date:   06-07-04 22:46

Well said, Bob. My attempt at being sardonic apparently fell short. I was trying to say that the ONLY difference between them is that W is real. Perhaps it's that "common language" bit Churchhill used to bring up. While I agree that making fictional comparisons helps give flesh to some beliefs, I fear that as polarized at this country is at present it might be doing as much harm as good.

I'm not sure that America as a whole has ever understodd what the world is about. We're the people that think anyone will understand English if it is spoken loud and slow -- which seems to be the underlying philosophy of our foreign policy at present.

It is heartening to see world opinion shifting against Bush. I would like to see it happening more in the US as well but ....

.... Bush invaded Iraq becasue he thought he could get away with it. Whether or not he believed his reasons is beside the point here. He has openly made light of the failure to find WMD to his political base whom he refers to as the "haves" and "have mores". In doing so, he is blatantly disregarding the opinions of about half the population in this country. It is as if he is flaunting his power. A politician who does such a thing is either an imbecile or believes s/he can get away with it. Or both as the case may be.

I am not sure what frightens me more. That a man in his position will behave so or that a bunch of people in this country are bothered by such behavior. But then again, I'm wierd. To paraphrase (because I can't find the damn quote) Douglas Adams: Anybody who would want the job is ipso facto to insane to hold it.

Peace and keep us on our toes

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: seventhswami 
Date:   06-28-04 13:42

I am really really amazed that this is the only place online where people are talking about this... at least the only place I can find. When I first started reading Radio Free Albemuth, the parallels were so glaring that I had to get out the yellow pen and highlight them all...

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 those missing 18 minutes - Watergate tapes
Author: robots in disguise 
Date:   07-01-04 10:24

Here I am at this topic once again.......

ok, I could concede that the current Bush = Nixon, and therefore is - FFF.

But why?! and how?

is he Abe reincarnated, and that is why my 1943 cent was stolen at the exact same sort of time that Cheney would have been selected to be VP this time?

thus when Alexandra filmed the Bush campaign on the aeroplane it could be used as a Fear-and-Loathing resonance,

and therefore that Mr. Peter Sellers real name being Richard Henry could in fact reference both Mr. Cheney ( President Muffley? ) and Mr. Kissinger ( Dr.Strangelove? ) ?

further notes of interest -

Mr.Cheney running for Pres. in '96 ? I think he did - I forget what time of year that would have been, but that year is notable for three main things in conspiracy history -

Tupac being shot in Vegas

The Mossad going public on their leadership

the UFO and alien activity in Israel.

.........................................................

Who has seen the film, Snake Eyes - the Defense Secretary gets killed at a boxing match - "hello!"

Bush when Governor had switch-throwing things to attend to - Tha Row by resonance.

the connection between Bush and someone named 'Michael Douglas' ( apparently Mrs. B ran over someone of that name )

the actor Michael Douglas in Falling Down ( D-Fense ?! on the numberplate )

Kirk Douglas, and Spartacus - if he hadn't asked for Kubrick then maybe there would have been no Dr.Strangelove movie either ?

.........

oh I have much more than this, but there is so much it's hard to remember it all at once.


( I also was set-up to run over someone, not the same name, but I think the same people set it up to get a hold of me or my soul - they sure stole my Abe cent off me, that's for sure, and that is entirely about The Philadelphia Experiment, which is entirely about World War 2 )

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 guaranteed to make your eyes pop
Author: robots in disguise 
Date:   07-01-04 10:48

The Shining -

"always the caretaker" = "always the President" ?

see this here,

( it will say you need to be over-18 to view it, that is because after I went and loaded loads of links, smartgroups began an adult-policy and my groups at that time were included due to swearing on the forums, I assure you there are no porno or such types of things, just say 'yes' to see the link, it is a poster from 1963 for an art show. I can't be bothered logging into my groups and uploading it to a non-adult listed group, I am on dial-up - it takes too long. )

It is scanned-in from a Marcel Duchamps book.

The most amazing thing about this poster is that I have linked it a few times and no-one has ever commented on it. That means everyone who looked at it is either really stupid and imbecilic, or, they were using what it strongly implies in an evil and selfish manner - and they were fully aware of their part in such things.




http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/sixtyfour/W.gif

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: Carey Wilson 
Date:   07-08-04 10:39

If you believe Michael Moore, Bush is the puppet of the Saudi royal family and the bin Ladens.

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: b. c. 
Date:   07-16-04 14:13

The similarities are indeed frightening. If everything goes full circle then on a graph GWB's fundamentalism would be right next to fascism.

FFF=666. Guess what # came up in the Illinois Lottery the same day Bush got the nomination? It was creepy, his smiling self-smirky mug on the front page right next to those three digit's.

As far as being a puppet, did you ever notice you never see Cheney drinking any water when George is talking?

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: Monty 
Date:   01-05-06 08:29

bump

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 Re:
Author: ckm 
Date:   01-05-06 10:10

same scumbags lying about me oh-so-extensively online (and offline in relation to that) are the same scumbags lying about this govt. and setting it all up, same exact way they try to set me up.


i mean for a start, consider how connected i am to the fact that there was never ever any need for fossil fuels to be used for fuel at all.


also, the various warmongering liars are also just sad cu nts who need to hide the facts about UFOs ect as well,


http://www.cseti.org


http://www.billhicks.com/message/index.php?forum=0&postid=935


prepare!

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cause it's almost That Time Again.


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http://fusionanomaly.net/freemasons.html

http://ke4gdx.mine.nu/misc/gov/washington/

http://www.sitchin.com

http://www.dagobertsrevenge.com

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: sean p 
Date:   01-05-06 11:25

Have any of you people read the 'Illuminatus' trilogy by R.A. Wilson & R. Shea?


It's got Howard the Dolphin in it.

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: ckm 
Date:   01-10-06 06:51

oh yeah! many simon-moons ago i read that.

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 Re: Ferris F. Freemont is George W. Bush
Author: nebenvelt 
Date:   01-10-06 18:55

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please pass this message on to all those concerned...

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