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 The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: SáT 
Date:   10-09-05 05:59

The Man in the High Castle was the first novel by Dick I've read, ten-something years ago. Since that I've read great many other books by Dick, but -- well, they say the first is always special, probably that's why I've developed a very strong fondness for this rather poorly regarded masterpiece. Simply put, I love it (and I'm outraged each time I read those awful reviews about it).

One thing alone bugs me about the novel. Of all the questions that go unanswered, only one irritates me.

Why 'The Grasshopper Lies Heavy'? Why PKD gave this specific title to the book-within-the-book? Sure, I might just shrug, saying that "Well, he just I Chinged it out", but by now I'm obsessed with this question. The reviews and analyses I've found on the internet don't deal with this question in detail, if at all.


We only get one hint about the sentence: "The Grasshopper Lies Heavy. That's a quote from the Bible." Actually, there's no such line in the most common translations of the Bible. The closest we have is in the Ecc 12:5:

"when men are afraid of heights
and of dangers in the streets;
when the almond tree blossoms
and the grasshopper drags himself along
and desire no longer is stirred.
Then man goes to his eternal home
and mourners go about the streets."
(New International version)

Other translations of the line include, but not limited to: "grasshopper is weighed down", "grasshopper shall be burden", "grasshopper loses its spring"; earlier translations (including my Hungarian Bible) say locust instead of grasshopper, but these versions call any such insect a locust anyway. Young's Literal sports "And the grasshopper is become a burden".

As you can see, there are actually two kinds of translations: either the grasshopper is burdened, either the grasshopper is the burden. The Ecc 12:5 is generally considered to be about the old age, but the part about the grasshopper is interpreted in two different ways: either the "old man drags himself along slowly," like a "dying grasshopper"; either the old man is so fragile that even "a little thing like a grasshopper" is a severe burden for him. I favour the first; the second is very awkward, while the the image of the dying grasshopper is very life-like and poetic (and Dick most probably chose the poetic version).

Now, as for the exact wording Dick used... "grasshopper lies heavy". English is not my mothertongue and (as you can see) my English is far from perfect. Thus even though I vaguely understand this line, I have a hard time figuring out exactly what does it mean, or what is its exact stylistical value. Am I right to assume that it might, with a little imagination, mean both interpretations listed above? (i.e. that the grasshopper is burdened or the grasshopper is the burden.) Knowing Dick, I'd assume that he used a very literal translation of a very early text, hence his different wording -- but I may be wrong altogether, and the line may be a very elaborate wordplay, mixing the Biblical line with... well, something.


The only theory about the GLH I encountered during my very modest research was in one of the hideous reviews; it said that the 'grasshopper' stands for the Eastern culture (read: Japan) that fails to take over America in the book-within-the-book -- I think this is bullshit, not only because it grossly disregards the Biblical reference (our only hint!), but also because the book-within-the-book deals mostly with Germany. Even though... I don't know.

The MHC deals with, to oversimplify it, the concept of Evil (Tagomi calls it so), more precisely the self-destruction the humanity's perpetually heading towards (cf the 'no time' concept of the Valis). The book-within-the-book seems to imply the same: it is supposed to end with Britain's victory over America, and we know that Churchill has grown tyrannical, the SD agent depicts a Nazi-ish dictator when talking about him; the Britons aren't the good guys anymore. It seems to me that the book-within-the-book says the same as the book, namely that the humanity is always heading towards destruction, no matter what; that would explain the choice of the verse, as the book's about a twilight period. On another level, the entire Ecclesiastics is fully in accordance with Dick's usual view about reality (all is vanity, eh?). But why that specific line? Why grasshopper? True enough, that line is the strongest part of the verse, (along with the 'almond tree blossoms'). But...


I don't know. I'm beginning to feel like a character from a PKD novel, with this obsessive search for an answer. The Empire never ended and the Grasshopper lies heavy. Anyhow. Help. Help me. Any ideas? Maybe somebody here could point out some primal sources, i.e. Dick speaking about the Grasshopper? Am I missing something terribly important? Am I completely off? Help this poor, confused young man who found this forum while searching for the Grasshopper.

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: Squire Jons 
Date:   11-09-05 18:17

*Spoiler Alert*

Grasshoppers and locusts often represent the same thing in the Bible. If we translate "The Grasshopper Lies Heavy" into "there is a lucust swarm upon us" then the title is certainly appropriate. In the end we discover a number of things. First Hawthorne admits that the I-ching basically "wrote" the book through him. We then learn that the I-ching wrote the book intentionally to tell us that our reality (of the war being won by the Germans and Japanese) is false and that the reality depicted in "The Grasshopper Lies Heavy" is the real one. I think that being set upon by a swarm of locusts is an apt metaphor for our collective occlusion as depicted in the novel. Just a thought.

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: Seth 
Date:   11-09-05 18:55

Your post is quite thought-provoking, and helped me win an argument. A friend had contended that "just because a character claims it's from the Bible doesn't mean it is," but I knew PKD takes scripture much too seriously to have a character attribute something he made up to the bible.

I think i have an answer to your question, but it may be hard to articulate.

The "Grasshopper Lies Heavy" is a contradiction in terms. If one were to compose a simple sentence describing the nature of the Grasshopper, one would say, "The Grasshopper Springs Lightly." We observe grasshoppers springing lightly, in the real world, so a world where the grasshopper lies heavy would be the opposite of the world as we can see it.

Since you've obviously read VALIS, you know this is a fundamental tenet of PKD's exegesis: The world we see is upside-down and backwards from the world as it was intended to be. Julianna Frink and Robert Childan are parallel quests to see through the illusion of the real world to the sublime truth of the Kingdom of God.

As you wrote<<
Other translations of the line include, but not limited to: "grasshopper is weighed down", "grasshopper shall be burden", "grasshopper loses its spring"; earlier translations (including my Hungarian Bible) say locust instead of grasshopper, but these versions call any such insect a locust anyway. Young's Literal sports "And the grasshopper is become a burden". >>

The grasshopper is burdened, AND is become a burden. It is foolhardy to ask whether the burden of the grasshopper is internal or external, because it is both. Or, more accurately, the distinction is only in the translation. In the Hebrew, you'd get something like "When Grasshopper Burden."

Much of PKD's work drives home the point that the Fall or Fracturing of the Godhead is replicated in the life of each individual, of each object and molecule. And that most of us, at some point, become aware of this: that the world is flawed, broken, deranged, however you want to phrase it.
It's noteworthy (to me) that this quote is the ONLY biblical quote in MHC. Unlike most of PKD's stuff which is loaded with scripture.

A quick point about Tagomi. He's the one who's travelling in the opposite direction, figuratively, from Childan and Frink. He's someone who saw the world pretty clearly for a while, but by the end of the book is so burdened by his fear and uncertainty that he sees Evil everywhere. PKD's point, as I interpret it, is that "Yang and Yin" is just as good a description of the two forces at work as "Good and Evil."

So the choice of TGLH is to remind us that the small is just as important as the great, and in this living world, we cannot trust our senses to reveal the true nature of anything. Even the most monstrous yang or omnipresent yin has the seed of its opposite within (the seed being a metaphor PKD uses describing Childan's new jewelry, which so confounds mr tagomi), and "good and evil" are relative terms indeed. Reviewing this, I'm not sure I gave you anything new. But, just remember, that although PKD shows humanity "perpetually heading towards destruction," as you put it, we'd surely have gotten there by now if we were not simultaneously traveling, with equal velocity, towards ... well i was going to say the light, but "creation" would be the opposite of destruction. Interesting.

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: Seth 
Date:   11-09-05 18:57

Most important point! Which i forgot to include is that if the characters reading TGLH in MHC are to realize that TGLH is the reality (Allied Victory), then are not we, in reading MHC to realize that MHC (Axis Victory) is the reality?
brain hurts!

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: marco g. 
Date:   12-01-05 21:19

anyone have ever utilised the "I-Ching" (or how it writes itself)? and if so any comments?

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: pugetopolis 
Date:   01-08-06 09:48

How should I approach The Grasshopper is Heavy?

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Hexagram 6—SUNG / CONFLICT

THE JUDGMENT

CONFLICT. You are sincere
And are being obstructed.
A cautious halt halfway brings good fortune.
Going through to the end brings misfortune.
It furthers one to see the great man.
It does not further one to cross the great water.

THE IMAGE

Heaven and water go their opposite ways:
The image of CONFLICT.
Thus in all transactions the superior man
Carefully considers the beginning.

Six in the third place:

“To nourish oneself on ancient virtue induces perseverance.
Danger. In the end, good fortune comes.
If by chance you are in the service of a king,
Seek not works.”

Changing into—

Hexagram 44—KOU / COMING TO MEET

The time of COMING TO MEET is important…

But the coming together must be free of dishonest ulterior motives, otherwise harm will result.

------

Richard Wilhelm, trans, The I Ching or BOOK OF CHANGES, Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1967.

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: Theophrastus 
Date:   01-10-06 09:43

Actually, there is at least one other biblical reference in MIHC. When Tagomi returns from the alternative world (which may be ours), having recovered the small silver triangle in the park, he refers to St Paul - the famous (and Dickian favourite) line "now we see through a glass, darkly".

Sorry if this is now out of date!

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: Michael Coletti 
Date:   01-26-06 22:02

Someone mentioned earlier that the expected phrase would be 'the grasshopper springs lightly'. In determining why the grasshopper now lies heavy we might ask 'who' rather than 'why.'

Who is the grasshopper that Abendsen was thinking of when he came up with this title. The grasshopper is marked by his movement. It's the most immediate thing that comes to mind when one thinks of the creatures. They hop, jump, leap, spring. They change their position. They elevate, arc, drop down in a new place. They travel. Except, this one is too heavy to do more than lie.

Who are the travelers in Abendsen's book? Neither Abendsen nor PKD ever tell us explicitly, but what about the travelers in 'The Man In The High Castle?' We have lots of information about them, and many of them travel.

So, who? Julia? Wegener? Frink? Tagomi? Childan? Some travel distances, some travel socially, some travel intellectually, some spiritually. Is it possible that PKD was referring to these folks?

They are all characters who travel in various ways but who all reach a sort of epiphany. Is he saying that the grasshopper lies heavy because of the traveling? He's too tired to spring lightly and so now he must lie heavy, that sort of thing.

And isn't that just a way of saying that the mind that sees is burdened while the ignorant mind springs blissful and light? The one who travels -- i.e. the one who elevates, springs, jumps, leaps, becomes aware -- sees more and in the seeing becomes burdened: lies heavy.

That sounds very nice. Except none of it works because all of it refers to characters who are not in 'The Grasshopper' but are in 'The Man In The Castle'. Stand the thought on its head though and maybe the grasshopper that lies so heavy is PKD, or us. We are, after all, the ones who live in Abendsen's alternate universe. Aren't we?

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: pugetopolis 
Date:   02-01-06 02:03

Just off the top of my head—Hawthorne Abendsen could be the “heavy grasshopper.” Abendsen is the author of The Grasshopper Is Heavy—and as Juliana Frink discovers when she visits him in Cheyenne, he resists the idea of Nebenwelt. Even when she saves his life and goes to him to warn him about the danger he’s in—even when she insists on consulting the Oracle in his home—even then he is heavy with doubt. He doesn’t want to believe The Grasshopper novel is true—that the Nebenwelt exists. They say “Denial isn’t a River in Egypt”—and denial makes The Grasshopper hard for Abendsen to accept. He doesn’t act much like a heroic Man in the High Castle does he? It almost makes one wonder if he even wrote the novel. He consults the I Ching Book of Changes—but he doubts it like PKD does. I can see why Juliana Frink would endanger herself by daring to journey to see Rommel—the Desert Fox is the only one in the novel who could end Operation Dandelion and end the Nazi madness like he tried to do in the Nebenwelt world. The Grasshopper was too heavy—so Juliana pleaded her case with the Desert Fox. It opens up TMITHC—in totally new ways. Thanks to Mr. Coletti—and his “Third Chapter.”

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: marco 
Date:   04-28-06 18:34

today, i used the i ching for the question "will it be useful for me to use the i ching further?"

the result was hexagram 6: conflict. changing into nothing (all static hexagram). the text to it can be seen in the other post of user pugetopolis, who by coincidence got almost the same answer to his question.


that's very confusing to me. does it mean that i have to rethink my approach to the i ching before utilising it further? i wasn't looking at it as just a stupid game or so, took it pretty serious but something with my attitude might be wrong anyway.

i suppose you people cannot help me with this, it looks like a problem i have to solve myself but that hexagram number 6 got me really irritated. any hints at how to look at this situation and how to interpretate it would be warmly appreciated.

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: Willy Interzone 
Date:   05-04-06 11:11

Thought I'd take a stab at this.

Since Abendsen used the I-Ching to write his book, I thought I'd look up the Grasshopper as a Chinese animal totem and here's what I found.

" The Chinese symbol of good luck and abundance, Grasshopper gives its totem people the ability to take chances. To move on hunches and take the leap forward. Things might not move for them as they do for other people; progress is not step-by-step, but rather extremely fast. Trust your own instincts on when to make the leaps. Trust your inner voice. It will lead you to great successes. Don’t be afraid to leap – and remember that Grasshopper only leaps forward – never backward."

Now, if the Grasshopper lies heavy, IMHO, it's acting against it's nature, acting against the defined symbolism of the totem animal. Perhaps the title is a reference to how the people of Abenson's world are behaving, as opposed to how they SHOULD be behaving. Wake up and become the true grasshopper.

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: John Greenland 
Date:   05-12-06 15:16

Marco, consider this before thinking too much on I Ching:

"For a schizophrenic, any method by which synchronicity can be coped with means possible survival; for us, it would be a great assist in the job of temporarily surviving. . . we both could use such a beat-the-house system.
This is what the I Ching, for three thousand years, has been and still is. It works (roughly 80 percent of the time, according to those such as Pauli who have analyzed it on a statistical basis). John Cage, the composer, uses it to derive chord progressions. Several physicists use it to plot the behavior of subatomic particles -- thus getting around Heisenberg's unfortunate principle. I've used it to develop the direction of a novel (please reserve your comments for Yandro, if you will). Jung used it with patients to get around their psychological blind spots. Leibnitz based his binary system on it, the open-and-shut-gate idea, if not his entire philosophy of monadology. . . for what that's worth.
You, too, can use it: for betting on heavyweight bouts or getting your girl to acquiesce, for anything, in fact, that you want -- except for foretelling the future. That, it can't do; it is not a fortunetelling device, despite what's been believed about it for centuries both in China and by Richard Wilhelm, who did the German translation now available in the Pantheon Press edition in an English version"

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: marco 
Date:   05-12-06 16:52

thanks john, i'll take the quote you produced into account. but that will take some time for me to understand.

after all, as the proverb says, "gut Ding will Weile haben", right?

thanks again and g'night.

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: Seth 
Date:   05-12-06 22:53

Sorry to sound like a fool, but - where is that quote from? I don't recognize it from MitHC.

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: marco 
Date:   05-13-06 05:17

which quote do you mean? john greenland's quote appears to be from "The Book of Predictions" (see his predictions thread in the main forum). the proverb i quoted is not dick's at all. sorry, that's my fault, i just thought there is so much german in pkd's work that everyone might be proficient with this great language. it means "a good thing needs it's time" or so.

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: Jennifer 
Date:   06-05-06 11:02

Have you considered the cammonality of the story of Genesis and the dynamic of the Yin and Yang? Once there is no more of the opposing force of that black dot in the white or the white in the black or once we realize we are all both good and evil (God and the Devil) then we return to the void; our true nature. Maybe this is not exactly what The Grasshopper lies heavy means, but refers to this idea.

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: Guttergod 
Date:   07-27-06 05:55

Almond trees only blossom in winter. They're symbolic of old age, usually. Most of the other imagery in the passge deals with feebleness, decay or decreptitude. Seems to me when one 'holds' the Grasshopper Lying Heavy up with the other ideas in the passage it seems to be referring to the Grasshopper being old and weary.

So if the I Ching wrote the book and also dictated the title, it seems as though the I Ching is expressing Reality's desire for us to 'know the truth' rather than live in an illusion.

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: Steven Owen Godersky 
Date:   08-31-06 16:57

Excuse me, I've just come on to this thread.
Forgive me if I'm stirring old waters.
There are many biblical quotes and references in
The Man in the High Castle as in most of Dick's
work.
Mr. Tagomi's meditation on the wu-ridden jewelry
is an example: 1Kings18 (Peradventure he sleepeth)
et al, and several chestnuts from 1Corinthians13.
PKD has a perculiar weakness for Paul. (Perhaps not
surprising in light of his life-long marital problems.)
There is also a mention by the young Japanese, Paul
(that name again)Katsura in which he references
Mark12, the stone rejected by the builder.
Another Christ-like figure, Bob Marley, wrote a song
about that.
I digress here because I have always believed
Mr. Tagomi is the central (and Christ-like) character
in this book. He is the bridge, the mediator and the
savior, both literally and figuratively. To make sure
we notice this, PKD has him do it twice. He is the only
one to pass beyond the veil. Robert Childan is only
the agency, the precursor crying out in the desert
to prepare the way. Childan remains gross, base
and unchanged.
In reading this thread it suprised me to notice that
no one mentioned another possibility about the
origin of the phrase "The Grasshopper Lies Heavy"
Its seven syllables (in translation, as I speculate)
might quote a line from one of the Japanese Haiku
or Renga masters. I believe PKD quotes Buson Yosa
in the book and credits him in a preface.
I am no Haiku expert, but an inspection of Basho
or others might reveal the source.

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: jefferson from the park department 
Date:   09-12-06 17:32

When I read in the book the title is a quote from the Bible, I thought 'great how am I ever going to find it?, and before I find it I cannot undestand what it means, what it's about'.
But just from the title itself, you can tell something is not right about it (GLH) same as something is not right about anything from the book, like nazis winning the war, originals turn out to be fake, young Jap couple faking american lifestyle, reading books unheard of unable to get what they are about.
Nothing is right is their world.

Oh, but now I know where is the quote from, I see it as a notice of change, because old age is just a part of the cycle, it's not everything gone bad. After winter comes spring, after death comes 'eternal home'. In a holographic world looking at something from the other side does not change anything substantialy, the change necessary comes from within and than it's not factbound. However that is not reason to be optimistic about anything that is morphing about in this world, because the quote is also a sort of prediction reminder wraped in a modern suit.
About world getting older as a natural process, following direction of entropy, breaking things apart that cannot be put together again.

There is also a thought about how you can't fart without disrupting the balance of the universe.
Often characters in the book talk about their world being better than alleged world where allies won, but they use all the arguments people use in this world when they consider alternatives they say 'it would never work'.
In fact anything could work. Slavery, feudalism, communism, democracy, revolutions, burning witches, spontaneous exodus of large groups of nations invading unknown lands, but it is the same world this one where true changes can more accurately be measured using scientific criteria as it gets older and withers.

Every author I learned meets this moral dilema when he chooses to write/film about nazis and holocaust, because the problem they are confronted with is there is nothing hopefull about it, no happyend material. But what this book (MITHC) pointed out on this subject is everything must come to end, and from a timeless perspective that was never an issue.

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: Jacob 
Date:   01-06-07 10:56

I get the vibe that he was using the word "grasshopper" as plural, just as you would for buffalo. And "lies heavy" makes me wonder if that means alot of them, covering every surface, such as "heavy fog", which can be considered the same as "thick fog".

Just a few thoughts.

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: Charles Laster 
Date:   05-22-07 14:33

I used to use it quite a bit, but haven't in years. but, strange enough, the oracle does dialougue with you, often uncovering inquiries you didn't know you had. strange book, one that reads your mind.

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: Andrew Dupont 
Date:   06-19-07 16:32

The first quote we see from the book itself is ::

. . .now in his old age he viewed tranquillity, domain such as the ancients would have coveted but not comprehended, ships from the Crimea to Madrid, and all the Empire, all with the same coin, speech, flag. The great old Union Jack dipping from sunrise to sunset: it had been fulfilled at last, that about the sun and the flag.

Again, old age seems an appropriate interpretation. I must admit, I am only this far in the book right now so I skipped all the earlier analysis spare the first one, but I will check back after I have finished so I can throw my two cents in.

Keep trying :D

Think.. what would the animatronic head of Philip K. Dick do?

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: Andrew Dupont 
Date:   06-22-07 13:49

Next quote from the book :

. . . Had he actually walked streets of quiet cars, Sunday morning peace of the Tiergarten, so far away? Another life. Ice cream, a taste that could never have existed. Now they boiled nettles and were glad to get them. God, he cried out. Won't they stop? The huge British tanks came on. Another building, it might have been an apartment house or a store, a school or office; he could not tell -- the ruins toppled, slid into fragments. Below in the rubble another handful of survivors buried, without even the sound of death. Death had spread out everywhere equally, over the living, the hurt, the corpses layer after layer that already had begun to smell. The stinking, quivering corpse of Berlin, the eyeless turrets still upraised, disappearing without protest like this one, this nameless edifice that man had once put up with pride.
His arms, the boy noticed, were covered with the film of gray, the ash, partly inorganic, partly the burned sifting final produce of life. All mixed now, the boy knew, and wiped it from him. He did not think much further; he had another thought that captured his mind if there was thinking to be done over the screams and the hump hump of the shells. Hunger. For six days he had eaten nothing but the nettles, and now they were gone. The pasture of weeds had disappeared into a single vast crater of earth. Other dim, gaunt figures had appeared at the rim, like the boy, had stood silent and then drifted away. An old mother with a babushka tied about her gray head, basket -- empty -- under her arm. A one-armed man, his eyes empty as the basket. A girl. Faded now back into the litter of slashed trees in which the boy Eric hid.
And still the snake came on.
Would it ever end? the boy asked, addressing no one. And if it did, what then? Would they fill their bellies, these --


not very interesting in the context of the discussion, but maybe somebody gets something out of it.

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: Andrew Dupont 
Date:   06-22-07 15:45

Things that just occurred to me:

This book within the book is telling the truth, portrayed as fiction, within a work of fiction.. an interesting meta plot.

Maybe we are interpreting the word "lies" incorrectly. Perhaps it is not about sitting or bearing upon something. Perhaps the grasshopper is not telling the truth. Heavy, back in 1963 could have meant unpleasant. The grasshopper is the last symbol to decrypt...

random googling :

... Spatial distribution of rangeland grasshopper outbreaks during 1962-1963, when the infestation area increased by 346.1% over the previous year....

There is a terrible lie on the lips of the grasshopper. the book within the book, portrayed as fiction, but is really truth. A gem of truth in a sea of simulated reality. An island of simulated meta-reality adrift in a sea of beautiful fiction.

man i wish i still smoked pot! i could figure this out in short order. Oh well I will continue reading and thinking upon it.

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: Andrew Dupont 
Date:   06-22-07 16:04

Great Quotage from The Grasshopper:

. . . Only Yankee know-how and the mass-production system -- Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, the magic names! -- could have done the trick, sent that ceaseless and almost witlessly noble flood of cheap one-dollar (the China Dollar, the trade dollar) television kits to every village and backwater of the Orient. And when the kit had been assembled by some gaunt, feverish-minded youth in the village, starved for a chance, for that which the generous Americans held out to him, that tinny little instrument with its built-in power supply no larger than a marble began to receive. And what did it receive? Crouching before the screen, the youths of the village -- and often the elders as well -- saw words. Instructions. How to read, first. Then the rest. How to dig a deeper well. Plow a deeper furrow. How to purify their water, heal their sick. Overhead, the American artificial moon wheeled, distributing the signal, carrying it everywhere. . . to all the waiting, avid masses of the East.


Perhap the lie is the American Dream itself as PKD is seeing it in 1965. Democracy isn't about bringing everyone up, water raising all boats.. same as communism and Nazism.. its always about keeping people down. And now we have paris hilton to present as our crowning achievement to the world.. instead of "how to dig a better well"... @!#$ you Rupert Murdoch! FOR SHAME!

(this has nothing to do with the discussion, but i liked how it fit with my last comment)

pretty heavy stuff man, totally out of sight :]

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: Andrew Dupont 
Date:   06-29-07 10:02

Something I suspected since the first few uses of the I Ching in the book ...

"I'll tell you, then, Mrs. Frink. One by one Hawth made the choices. Thousands of them. By means of the lines. Historic period. Subject. Characters. Plot. It took years. Hawth even asked the oracle what sort of success it would be. It told him that it would be a very great success, the first real one of his career. So you were right. You must use the oracle quite a lot yourself, to have known."

I think PKD used the I Ching to make many decisions for the flow and direction of this book.. If that is true then this is not just one layer of fiction within fiction, oracle within oracle.. it is circular, a mobeus strip back to reality, folded upon itself.. pkd writes the fiction using the truth, portrays fiction as truth and shows his own hand even as hes drawing the line.. an M C Escher drawing of plot, twisted from fiction into reality and back again..

Wild.. I love this book :D

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 Re: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy
Author: Andrew Dupont 
Date:   06-29-07 10:11

Truth, she thought. As terrible as death. But harder to find.

good fucking game.. god bless PKD

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