Long Lost Science Fiction Authors

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 john brunner
Author: michael 
Date:   06-19-04 19:41

'stand on zanzibar'
When I first read it in the seventies it seemed like a vision of a horrible future of media manipulation, over population, terrorism and random acts of violence. Now it reads more like a commentry on the way things are in the world. In fact just writing this has persuaded me to dust it down and read it again!

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 Re: john brunner
Author: Matt Hoffman 
Date:   06-20-04 22:02

Another really good book. But again, this is not a long lost science
fiction author. John Brunner was very prolific and, to this day, has
a huge following. A google search yields 39,000 hits in a large
variety of languages.

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 Re: john brunner
Author: michael 
Date:   06-21-04 05:45

I agree, not long lost, but compared to PKD (Results 1 - 10 of about 672,000 for philip k dick) relatively neglected and worthy of perusal by others. Consider the original post for this forum, including the following by Jason K - "This forum was conceived from an idea by Isa, Phil Dick's daughter, as a place to showcase great science fiction authors who haven't gotten as much attention as Philip K. Dick... Maybe, just maybe this forum can turn potential readers onto new fiction that they wouldn't have otherwise read.

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 Re: john brunner
Author: michael 
Date:   06-21-04 05:57

Further evidence of Brunner's neglect
Stand on Zanzibar Amazon.com Sales Rank: 216,372
A Scanner Darkly Amazon.com Sales Rank: 4,185
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? Amazon.com Sales Rank: 718

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 Re: john brunner
Author: Can-D 
Date:   07-12-04 07:27


Good call Michael.

If 'Stand on Zanzibar' seems to be set in today's world his novel 'Sheep Look Up' is tomorrow ! A truly scary thought !

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 Re: john brunner
Author: James John Bell 
Date:   08-02-04 03:00

I would agree that John Brunner is not a "long lost" writer, but much of his work has been forgotten. Brunner called PKD "the most consistently brilliant science fiction writer in the world" (quoted from the back inside page of the 6th printing of VALIS).

Brunner was ultra hot at his peak, which many peg as the early 70's, but wasn't as popular in the US (he's a UK author). This is probably because he depicts American corporations as downright evil, like Enron, and the US government as, well, like the Bush administration. Brunner is the "grandfather" of what became cyberpunk (he called many of his writings 'close-up' sci-fi). After cyberpunk was coined by Gibson folks pointed to Brunner's Shockwave Rider as the "first" of the sub-genre.

The book later became famous when it lead to a college student creating the first internet virus which shut down many computers around the world, including the US government. Scientists termed what happened a "worm" after what Brunner's character creates in the book.

If I was to draw a comparison between Brunner and PKD it seems that while PKD's stories get turned into movies, Brunner's characters seem to become real... like, the radical environmentalists in his 1972 book The Sheep Look Up, a book that the future leaders of groups like Earth First! and Rainforest Action Network carried around in their backpacks during the 70's and pulled from it many of their political actions. It's just been brought back into print with an intro by David Brin, and an afterword by me.

“For the last twenty years at least,” proclaims hacker Mark Pesce, “‘hard’ science fiction has functioned as a ‘high level architecture’ (HLA), an evolving design document for a generation of software designers brought up in hacker culture, a culture which prizes these works as foundational elements in their own worldviews.” Pesce credits Shockwave Rider for creating the mythology of the hacker, much like The Sheep Look Up helped give shape to the mythos and identity of the radical environmentalist. Pesce described the impact of Brunner on would-be hackers of the 1970’s as leading to the “auto-catalytic recognition and formation of community” – Brunner’s books give movements their 'code'.

Brunner may be "lost" to the mainstream (Zanzibar, ShockWave Rider, and Sheep are all that is still in print out of over 80 books! and most bookstores don't even stock those), but his books seem to find an underground audience, much like PKD did.

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 Re: john brunner
Author: Lord RC 
Date:   04-12-05 12:58

I just yesterday read Brunner's "Players At The Game Of People" (1980). It's a pretty short novel and while deciding if it was worth reading I'd practically completed it before I decided it was! I think in this novel that Brunner was making a big sneer at the field of Science Fiction. A strange book (and not easy to jump from that to Fritz Lieber's "Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser" stories). 'best to y'all -- dave

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 Re: john brunner
Author: L Ballaam 
Date:   12-04-06 18:48

Being somewhat of a fan of a wide range of SF, Brunner being one of "the must reads" Stand on Zanzibar is but one part, of a quartet of books on similar subjects the basic principal being a projection of 50 years hence,
Jagged Orbit (security) Sheep look up (pollution) Shockwave Rider (computors) and Stand on Zanzibar (population)
Yes would like to see some sort of film made out of his books.
There are a few like that!
Liked also the Long Result.

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